Stuck anywhere? Feel free to ask here.

[divVerent]

On this post, feel free to ask about places where you are currently stuck. This may result in hints, solution videos, or even improvements to level design. Enjoy!

(FYI, I am hiding answers as "resolved" if they stood for a while - this should reduce spoiler exposure but anyone can of course open them)

[madturtle3]

butterfly effect

[tigercoding56]

i am stuck on the butterfly effect as idk how to move platforms

[Furrior]

Hi. May I please get a hint how to reach dead ends(black roads on the map) on levels "Viability Voodoo" and "Shepard Tone"?

[Furrior]

And the thing I forgot to ask:
How to get 2/2 on "Switching it up"? My idea is that I need to bring all the platforms to the last room and press all buttons at the same time. I hope that it isnt the right way, because I tried it a lot, but didnt succeed.

[laniakea64]

Hi, I got to 100% and All Notes but am stuck on few things trying for All Paths:

1. How to get to the secret path that's shown on the map branching off Endless Eight?

2. How to get to this area seen at the end of The One Way Round? (outlined in red in the following screenshot: )
   

3. I got to the dead end off The Sphere in two different ways (and two different orientations of said dead end), but the path pointing to there is still flashing white on the map? And it isn't shown as connected to that dead end - in fact, there is no path connected to that dead end??
   Am I missing something else around The Sphere?

[FilthyChef]

Hello! I admire this game, mesmerizing. Difficult at many times mostly because of same button acting as controlling and grabbing of the platforms, which sometimes has to be held for extended periods of time - but I understand it has to be this way for NES gamepad.
Found this game through a Reddit post and I thought it's a game for under an hour with rotating rooms being just a gimmick, but instead I enrolled myself for an 8-hour ride in 2 sittings 😃, I like it a lot how any room can be rotated and not just the Title room.

For the note pinned to "The Hub", I did the most ridiculous thing carrying a platform from "I Like To Move It Move It", through "King's Cross" and the rest, because I didn't notice the shortcut 😅, but that also taught me how to solve some secrets.

My questions would be:

1. I'm stuck at "149&NS" score, where should I look for something that I'm missing?
2. What do white-blinking road parts mean? Great map design by the way, love how the hub sections are shaking and how anti-hub design wordlessly told me I need to re-visit it some other time with more power-ups.
3. My savedata and some sccreenshots of locations: AAAAXY.zip

[jm355]

I'm completely stuck on how to get the 4th note on leap of faith. I'm pretty sure it's the one in the section right before A New Beginning, but I have no idea how to get a platform in there or get in there while the world is tilted. Help?

[Ronrid]

Crumbling upwards. Is there a trick ? Seems quite hard on smartphone

[MTNdew4]

How on earth do I do twice twice

[error-27]

This game is really good, but there's 2 levels I'm stuck on.

1. Ski Dyver. I have no idea what I'm supposed to do after I ride the platform all the way up.
2. Wide Gap. I know I need to get to the other side, but I'm having trouble getting past the second gap and I want to know if there are any tricks.
   Thank you.

[laki2525]

How can I go to the exit at stage "It Only Takes One"?

[ghost]

[MinekPo1]

Is there some big brain play in large gap or am I just bad?

[random-integer]

The Wide Gap is probably the platforming-wise hardest place in the game, with no way around it.

I actually have found a way around it, though it's not really any easier.

1. Grab the platform
2. Jump down
3. Release the platform right before you touch the platform-killing blocks. The later you release it the better. (takes a few tries but it is doable)
4. Jump onto the platform
5. Profit

[divVerent]

No problem - and I took this as feedback to improve accessibility in this room as well. Now there is a visual indication that a note is playing.

Added in commit 9a55a64 - I will likely release that (together with first version that supports German language) on Monday.

[EdgarEatsPi]

How to get all stars in twice twice?

[Kosmix-XYZ]

what i need to do in the kaaaart

[Kosmix-XYZ]

what about shepard tone

[Kosmix-XYZ]

and what about twice twice and sao paulo road rage(ive only picked 2 paper on this)?

[cab404]

148%NP. Well, I don't have any idea what and where to search for secrets)
Hubs and LoF are shaky, so I guess that means those are there somewhere?

(thank you for the game!)

[sodiboo]

I found an unintended path from The One Way Round to Get It Back that doesn't trigger the path on the map. I was gonna ask here, since i was stuck, but in the thread by FilthyChef i was able to understand the intended solution, even though it was not the same problem i faced according to the comments on that.

The intended way with going around three times is too tedious for me to even try in my first playthrough, and since you can flip the area in two ways, i figured the arrows were meant to be what order you should flip the space. Sure enough, by just trial and error, this somehow works, consistently. (switch between the upside down and regular entrances more or less randomly)

Problem is, when you skip to the end of The One Way Round with the entrance to Get It Back, you never appear at the start of The One Way Round, and the checkpoint is never triggered. As such, the game thinks I'm going from A New Beginning to Get It Back, and it does not register the path from The One Way Round to Get It Back.

[sodiboo]

After understanding how the level actually works thanks to your response, i think i created a fairly stable method of just alternating up/down for about 4 total times entering The One Way Round. This also allows me to enter the blue room before Get It Back in the upside down orientation, which makes it impossible to get to Get It Back (since you cannot get a platform in here, there are kill blocks earlier, it would be fun to cheese Get It Back by being upside down though) and it also reveals a super secret message you probably didn't intend to ever exist: "ON". or if you kinda accept the upside down letters, "RAM ON" or "ON RAM".

Here's a video showing this cheese. Note that i pressed the button to enter The One Way Round from the map right before recording started, during the countdown. I did not mess with the state of the loaded map prior to what you see.

https://youtu.be/GiGjV-wBlCY

[divVerent]

The super secret message was never intended - the intended message is the same if you read it the right side up ;)

And yes, video acknowledged and confirmed; nevertheless, I think I will block this cheese. Implementation of blocking it was simple (an extra instance of an existing object that changes portal state, configured to simply reset the room), while making it fully work would require me to add a new checkpoint-like object that behaves almost like a checkpoint - except not being a checkpoint for deciding player start position. I could certainly do that and make it an official alternate path.

Based on the fact that this allows entering Get It Back upside down (I discovered this too), which isn't game breaking but a massive rabbit hole (as you may be able to get rather far from there, but pretty sure Twice Twice is unbeatable upside down), I decided to rather close this up. A similar de-cheese has been done in 545ba73 with a mere patch version and this fix is similarly low in impact, as no speedrun should ever use this route as it's much longer (albeit easier to perform), so I'll go with that.

Big thanks though - this was interesting! Do you want your video to be linked from release notes?

[sodiboo]

Sure, you can link the video in the release notes.

[divVerent]

Haha, the de-cheese broke my regression test. There is a case where you can get to a situation where you need one extra round.

So, I gotta update that test first :)

[divVerent]

Yeah, for now let's make the "one extra round if you did the upside down part first" a feature so the test keeps passing. Can fix that in a later version.

[ghost]

I already completed the game 5 times or something, but I was never able to have every room flipped... I went back in every room from the (flipped) beginning but apparently I'm missing something. Is there some kind of indicator that tells me what rooms I missed?

[divVerent]

On the map screen, regular checkpoints appear with an X in them, and flipped checkpoints with a + in them. Does that help figuring out what's missing?

(Hm... maybe should have made them flathead, not philips, so I can show regular with / and flipped with \?)

[ghost]

Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for!🥰 I apparently missed a few in the top. Does this also apply to secret rooms?

[divVerent]

The secrets do not need to be flipped, and indeed, you don't even need a 100% run for All Flipped. The general rule is "all non-secret checkpoints that you've seen must have been last touched in the flipped state".

In particular, the VVVVVV section is not needed for such a run, but IF you've seen it, you must have played it flipped.

[Henry-Hiles]

Hello, I can't figure out the one way round, could anyone help? Thanks.

[divVerent]

You take a platform from the previous room, and go around the circle in arrow direction 3 times.

[Henry-Hiles]

Thanks!

[Henry-Hiles]

Earlier in the game I found an Easter egg that said "Hello world" (see screenshot), but I've beenoojing for over an hour now and can't find what level it was on lol. Any ideas?

[Henry-Hiles]

Oh, it was moved enough!

[Henry-Hiles]

How do I get in here? On the endless 8. I brought an elevator to the endless 8, looped once, then went up to this block and tried to jump through but I can't fit

Thanks!

[lnee94]

Im having trouble routing through twice twice with vvvvvv mode allways on the thing is trigering the escape with a big platform this may not be posible

diff --git a/internal/game/player/player.go b/internal/game/player/player.go
index 32426d2a..fb709854 100644
--- a/internal/game/player/player.go
+++ b/internal/game/player/player.go
@@ -315,7 +315,7 @@ func (p *Player) Update() {
                        p.CoyoteFrames = -1
                        p.Jumping = true
                        p.JumpingUp = true
-                       if p.VVVVVV {
+                       if true {
                                p.OnGroundVec = p.OnGroundVec.Mul(-1)
                        }
                        p.JumpSound.Play()

[divVerent]

Run seems realistic, I was surprised by how you got past Ski Dyver by simply being too fast, but it kinda makes sense as switch blocks take a few frames to become solid.

I am adding a source code patch to add a flag -cheat_vvvvvv (right next to -cheat_in_air_jump) to enable this mode without source patching.

[divVerent]

Added.

[laki2525]

Not stuck anywhere but when I pick up the platform (press B), other platforms are moving away from me. I completed the entire game but now I saw some speedrun where the player picks the platform, but other platforms stand still.
How can I pick up the platform and not move others?
I am playing on Android

[divVerent]

Yes, exactly. A few places in the game get harder (but not impossible) with the coil powerup.

And in fact, it is possible to beat the game without ever getting this powerup, although Ski Dyver gets unnecessarily hard when doing so. I did beat it once though.

[divVerent]

So go to hilberts dotel and the strip but skip short circuited

And also, after getting The Remote, do not try it out and fall on the coil, but hit esc right after acquiring it.

[laki2525]

Thank you both!
It is crazy how many ways there are to beat the game. Can we expect new levels?

[divVerent]

I have no plans for making more levels/worlds, however if a new "world" for the game is built by anyone else, I will add support to the game for multiple "worlds" (with their own sets of save states, etc.).

I recommend Tiled as level editor (which is what I've used myself too).

[lnee94]

AAAAXY_GENERATE_ASSETS=true ./scripts/build-generated-assets.sh this is what you do when you change cps right?

[nicolasschaefi]

I am stuck on ski-Dyver. i can get to the top, but i can't find a way to get the block inside

[BeBuzik]

Hello i whould Like to ask where i need to Go to get the ability to hold platforms i already got the ability to Control them Bit i dont know how to hold the yet

[divVerent]

Two ways:

Easy way

• Go to The Hub.
• Use the right (or left, if flipped) exit. Title: "Hilbert's Dotel". It looks like an endless room with many doors.
• Beat this section.

Second room of this contains a piano; which notes to play is "more or less" revealed in the text in that room. Also, if you ever played the LucasArts game "Loom", you may even guess it :)

Hard way

• Go to The Anti-Hub
• Use the right (or left, if flipped) exit. Title "The Wide Gap". It looks like a large gap with a platform.
• Beat this section.

This section requires using the other two abilities to beat some platforming/platform riding challenges.

[BeBuzik]

No need anymore i already got IT

[random-integer]

I found a way to get to the Hub upside down. I can't possibly be the only one who's discovered this, right? All you need to do is:

1. Start from Fly High
2. Take the platform and go back to House with Two Rooms
3. Go back to the top, and navigate the maze as I did in the video
4. You have arrived at House with Two Rooms sideways
5. Go through the room, and get a single-wide platform from Fly High, leaving the double-wide one behind
6. Go back to House with Two Rooms again
7. Navigate the maze, and arrive at House with Two Rooms upside down

https://youtu.be/1J74C0YhWo8

[divVerent]

A trick like this one is actually necessary for some run categories, such as "No Teleport" or even "No Coil". A lesser form of this trick (taking platform back, but no orientation trickery) is needed to beat "All Notes", as you need a platform in The Hub to collect the note at its top. And indeed, the topology section of the game is probably the easiest way to get to The Hub in any orientation you want, and with a platform.

[BeBuzik]

Thanks you for the information i will try it right away divVerent ***@***.***> schrieb am Mo., 4. Dez. 2023, 14:27:

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[Ewirlys]

Hey there!
I'm quite enjoying AAAXY with 5hours of pt actually on android. Im stuck at some rooms:
Crumbling upwards : I made the jump whitout the moving block, and i'm stuck at the near top because there is no more blocs to jump on, and i did it whit the movable platform and i drop into the thing on top and i get back into the same room.
I have 2 others rooms rn which is just me not be skilled enough, i just have to try harder (higher higher higher and multi-party authorisation)
Thanks for this game, the non linear aspect is very neat :D
Cheers

[divVerent]

BTW, otherwise you got 100% of the "official" rooms in the game (but a few secret rooms are missing). Remaining missing parts will be highlighted on the map as a sort of "epilogue" once you finished the ending from "It Only Takes One".

[divVerent]

The room from which the exit is reachable, if only you can manage to get a platform here:

It is here on the map:

[divVerent]

Next release will highlight this checkpoint once you see it - this was indeed a weird way to get stuck that I didn't expect, but the change I made should make it easier to find the end in future releases.

[Ewirlys]

Okay thanks!
I nearly got to it, like i add the platform, and i just failed the last jump to get to the end i think, and then i moved on xD
In my free tipe, i will try to give some translations (french)
Cya!

[divVerent]

Thank you!