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Garbage output on 30B model? #4

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drewcrawford opened this issue Mar 13, 2023 · 10 comments
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Garbage output on 30B model? #4

drewcrawford opened this issue Mar 13, 2023 · 10 comments

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@drewcrawford
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I've been trying to get the 30B model up but my output is total garbage. Example: Trust Delete викори геCES/$ свобо voicepull mediumвриLongrightarrow fed NormalJe zespo installer пробле конце attacks genu genericituteAX language hy Jurpring lange)))) Архивная. This is in contrast to the 7B and 13B model which work well.

From the readme, it seems like someone at least managed to measure memory usage on 30B, but is there an indication they were able to produce reasonable text?

Possibly related, I needed to do the resharding and arrow conversion on a second machine with more RAM, maybe there is some problem doing the conversion on a different machine than inference? Is there a 'known good' arrow version I could compare with?

Side note, the readme takes the view that the comparison with llama.cpp is about performance. But in my experience, the 13B here is much better quality than 65B llama.cpp. I have several theories about why this is, but they all suggest that getting the 30B working here would be stronger output than alternatives.

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Hi, can you post an MD5 hash of your re-sharded 30B model? I had one more report of somebody having the same problem as you, but for me it worked fine. I re-sharded mine on a Windows PC with 128GB RAM.

As for 65B llama.cpp being worse than 13B here, that's because by default the llama.cpp readme instructs you to quantize the model from float16 to 4-bit precision, which decreases the amount of RAM needed, but also leads to worse generated text. You can imagine it as 65B 4-bit model having more knowledge than the 13B one, but being less able to communicate that knowledge due to the lowered prevision. You can try to skip the quantization step and run the fp16 13B model with llama.cpp.

@drewcrawford
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Quantization is one part of the difference but even the fp16 model is inferior to this project. I have reason to believe llama.cpp has bugs which cause quality degradation, my guess is they're aggravated by scale

I did this conversion on linux x64 on a 200gb system

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The good news is that your MD5 hashes are identical to mine. The bad news is that I don't know what else could be causing your bad output. To be fair, 30B is very slow on my 64GB machine so I stopped it after few tokens, but they were looking quite ok…

30B demo

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Well it's good to have solid confirmation the resharding isn't the issue!

Here is my equivalent screenshot, 13B is plausible while 30B is not

Screenshot 2023-03-15 at 1 53 49 PM

Screenshot 2023-03-15 at 1 55 20 PM

Just to throw some other things out there, this is an M1 Max 64gb, Ventura 13.2.1 (22D68), Python 3.9.13, PyTorch 1.13.1

I did note in your example the continuation does not follow grammatically from the prompt, but it is at least the same topic. Probably not related, but you never know.

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Just to throw some other things out there, this is an M1 Max 64gb, Ventura 13.2.1 (22D68), Python 3.9.13, PyTorch 1.13.1

Strange, basically identical configuration to my setup...

Could you try to pull the latest code from the repository and see if it gives you better results?

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LeiHao0 commented Mar 23, 2023

Hi @jankais3r, how can I download the alpaca 30B and 65B?
I checked the export_state_dict_checkpoint.py but could not find them.

I found the 30B in here, but I need to figure out how to convert it.

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jankais3r commented Mar 23, 2023

Hi @LeiHao0, the 30B model you linked unfortunately won't work with LLaMA_MPS, because it has been quantized to 4-bit precision from the original float16. If you find a float16 Alpaca 30B model, let me know and I will add support for it in the script.

Actually I think it should be possible to run this model, but I am not sure how I feel about introducing q4 models to this repo... Maybe I'll add it with an identified 30Bq4 or similar to make it obvious that it's not a full precision model.

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LeiHao0 commented Mar 23, 2023

Hi @jankais3r,

I discovered a new language model called alpaca-30b on the Hugging Face website, which was trained in 8-bit mode.
To download it, I made some modifications to the export_state_dict_checkpoint.py script on my branch.

Although the model consumes 80GB of memory (24-30GB of which is allocated to swap), it appears to be working since it's generating a few words now.
However, it runs very slowly on my M1Max 64G computer so I cancel the task.

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Having similar problems using 7b. Lots of Cyrillic. Model from HF repo. No params.json file so borrowed this one from yet another HF repo.

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kechan commented Mar 30, 2023

Using M2 Max 96gb. Also got gibberish (& extremely slow) for Llama 30B

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