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Annotations for certain documents don't export #2856
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Zotero doesn't disclose the annotations to the exporter environment. I can see whether I can work around that, but this is really something zotero should fix. |
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Most of my annotations come through on export just fine. Why might one document produce problems on export? |
Depends on what you mean with that. It is possible that Zotero adds the annotations to the pdf during export, but the annotations are not currently available for exporter that generates the bibtex output. If the annotations appear in the pdf, that js done outside the scope of control of the bibtex-generating code. |
You can export items using |
I am not exporting the pdf, just the annotations. I am exporting them into a research note in Obsidian. I use BetterBibtex with mgmeyers/obsidian-zotero-integration. When you look at the Zotero Data Explorer for seeing what gets exported from this one document there are no annotations, even though when exporting from other documents I get the relevant annotations. On mgmeyers' FAQ page in Github he says "There might be a bug in Bibtex or the Zotero Integration plugin. Zotero has the annotation but its not seen in Obsidian. Please reference https://github.com/mgmeyers/obsidian-zotero-integration/issues/107There might be a bug in Bibtex or the Zotero Integration plugin. Zotero has the annotation but its not seen in Obsidian. Please reference mgmeyers/obsidian-zotero-integration#107". |
How precisely are you exporting, what do you mean by "most", and where do you see these annotations after export?
I don't know how you are doing this.
I don't know what the Zotero Data Explorer is
I have no idea what you are describing here.
I don't actually know how the obsidian plugin calls BBT. If the developer of the Obsidian plugin says what it needs I may be able to help, but until the dev does, there's nothing for me to fix. If the obsidian plugin is using |
The set up is this: I collect articles in Zotero. Perhaps you can help work this out. |
Given your description, I think he calls into one of the JSON-RPC methods that BBT offers. We can't realistically diagnose this with you as a go-between. If MGMeyers can replicate your problem, have him get in touch, and we can get to a diagnosis. |
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closing for inactivity. |
I mean, mgmeyers has done about 10 merged pull-requests on Better Bibtex's JSON-RPC method to enable / enhance this workflow, so it should be apparent which method he / Zotero Integration uses: https://github.com/retorquere/zotero-better-bibtex/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Amgmeyers |
I'm not sure what you want me to do with this information. I didn't remember these pull requests, but I don't see how they're relevant; I have no idea what @mgmeyers does with the information picked up from these endpoints, so until we have the problem reproducible and @mgmeyers involved, there's not much I can do. I could have done some prelim diagnosis with @chlorophilo, but that conversation has stalled, so I've closed the issue. If you have something I can act on, I'll be glad to, but I don't currently know what. |
@chlorophilo we were talking past each other -- you were talking about things showing up in the PDF attachments, which translators (like BBTs) leave to Zotero; I thought you were talking about the content of the exported items themselves, not the attachments, and in the exported items themselves, annotation data is not accessible. So I can try and help with diagnosis, but it would mainly be to establish how it can be that annotations don't show up in PDFs when exported using BBT, where BBT for all attachments, like all translators, just tells Zotero "save it to this path" and then gets out the way. |
Nothing as such, I was just surprised by the lack of co-awareness, given the past interactions and contributions. |
I don't mind bumping into users, I'm happy my software is useful and grateful for pull requests, but the last interaction on this was January, and it simply slipped out of my focus after that. My main focus is still bibtex export, the integrations sort of emerged as a side effect. |
On Thu, 16 May 2024 at 07:02, appwcn ***@***.***> wrote:
Depends on what you mean with that. It is possible that Zotero adds the
annotations to the pdf during export, but the annotations are not currently
available for exporter that generates the bibtex output. If the annotations
appear in the pdf, that js done outside the scope of control of the
bibtex-generating code.
I see why is the issue. So what you mean is that better-bibtex does not
export annotations, so maybe the author of Obsidian Zotero Integration use
its unique way to export annotations.
No, I thought the discussion is about what output BBT generates, not the
attachments — BBT does not do anything with attachments other than handing
a list of names of attachments to Zotero to save them on its behalf, so I
thougth we were talking about the output BBT generates itself.
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Debug log ID
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What happened?
Hi Retorquere, and thank you for this invaluable extension.
Most of the time I have no problem with the export of data using Better Bibtex. Once before, though I tried to export annotations from a paper and I just could not get it to work. I decided there must have been something buggy and left it alone. But it has just happened again with a different paper, and I really need to transfer these annotations.
As I understand the annotations are stored separately from the pdf, so I'm reluctant to believe it is something about the source document format. Can you think of any other issue that might be document specific like this?
Best, Chlorophilo
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